Edge – Learning Pick-up as a Path to Self-Mastery

by Edge

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Pursuing Self-Mastery through developing relationship skills

When I approach learning to attract women and building my relationship/interpersonal skills, I approach it from a self-improvement standpoint, not from the standpoint of “getting ass”. Sure, it’s great to hook-up with women, no doubt. But, for me, that is just the beginning.

Learning to be better with women has motivated me to be a better man in every sense. I think that, from an outside perspective, it’s easy to look at the so-called “seduction community” as a bunch of horny guys looking to get into a woman’s pants by any means necessary. I believe that nothing could be further from the truth.

I think the majority of men exploring this material are men that truly want to have the best life and the best relationships possible. I have talked to countless men who have said that they are studying pick-up and seduction because they want to have a great marriage someday in the future. They want to be good fathers. They want to be great men.

And yet, society and culture in the Western world had little to offer, so men have come together and created material and a culture that works for them. Sure, not all the material is perfect. Sure, some of the material may put people off for one reason or another. But this is cultural evolution. This is the mass evolution of male consciousness, similar to massive cultural movements in the past (by women, by various ethnic groups, by social classes). Movements like these date back to ancient times. Think of the Magna Carte. :) Changes like these shape history for the better.

Personally, I have a greater consciousness of my own thoughts, motivations and aspirations because of my intent to become great in this area of life. It has inspired me to ask for more of myself and my life. To set bigger goals. To become a more understanding, considerate and worldly person.

On another note, a person may ask, “Well what about all of the women you ‘go through’ on your path to your own self-improvement? Isn’t this a little selfish?”

I would say no, absolutely not. Granted, I’m speaking for myself here, but when I am with a woman in any capacity, I do my best to give her something wonderful that will improve her life. Maybe it’s inspiration. Maybe it’s the feeling that she’s smart, or beautiful, or impressive, or special. Hell, maybe it’s just the experience of being with a secure man or maybe even just the experience of having amazing, mind-blowing sex. I am having enjoying myself and getting something out of it, but that definitely does not mean that I am not doing my best to give something great to the woman in return as well.

I think the fact that I feel I have a handle on this area of my life gives me the ability to give great gifts to women. If I was living in the paradigm of believing that I needed to “get lucky” with women or that hooking up with a woman was purely a game of chance, I do not believe I could give as many of the things that I can give presently. Feeling that I have this area handled gives me the feeling that anything is possible, that relationships with women are always available and that the real prize is creating something wonderful with a woman, not just sex in it of itself.

Thoughts?

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Infinity January 27, 2009 at 6:44 pm

That’s a good write-up. In the end, I try to tell the guys that I teach that this isn’t about women. It’s about self-improvement. It’s about creating and leading a more fulfilling life. It is about making breakthroughs that you haven’t been able to figure out for years. It’s finally be able to release yourself and allow people to enjoy your for who you really are.

That alone is so much to share with anyone. On the surface, it may look like it’s about women. But there is so much more going on inside and what we go through and battle that truly determines the end result we are actually looking for.

Self-fulfillment in life.

Edge January 28, 2009 at 12:35 pm

Hey Infinity,

Completely agree. As men, we are lucky to have such powerful drives to succeed with women. Though in the beginning these drives can leave us feeling frustrated, disappointed or even hopeless, they can drive us to push ourselves to our full potential of what we can be.

On the other hand, one could argue that it can push some men to be the worst they can be too – lying, cheating and acting to get what they want and take all they can.

I tend to believe that people are generally good and when they truly recognize that we “live in abundance” (so to speak), they can let those tendencies good and become a better person. I always try to highlight how taking a path that benefits everyone is the best path, but I am not here to make moral judgments… But this is a different subject for a different time.

Speaking to your point, yes, I wholeheartedly agree with you.

know1 February 4, 2009 at 7:51 pm

Absolutely, positively, without a doubt correct. I discovered the community as I was getting divorced.

Through my studies I came to realize that this was the method for me to live a more fulfilling life and to give my gift. I am grateful.

Now, because of my continued development I will be quitting my day job to work from home. This was a direct result of finding my personal power and developing myself as a man.

PLEASE DELETE PREVIOUS POST. I apologize for reposting.

Cemm September 5, 2009 at 2:39 am

I totally agree with you guys.

When it is all about women, you will be measuring your process depending on the responses that you get from the women… And I don’t think that is right. You can learn lots of good stuff about anything while reading the books, blogs etc. And why limit them just for girls.

Also “On another note, a person may ask, “Well what about all of the women you ‘go through’ on your path to your own self-improvement? Isn’t this a little selfish?”

Additional to edge’s oponions; It is not selfish because the girl that you are with is having fun and spending some nice time when she is with you… And she can learn from you as you can learn from her…
I totally dig the mentality of Edge… There are billions of things to discover

I’m from Turkey and here, even the conception of ‘one-night stand” is new, so I use the things that I learned from you guys not only in girls.

Thanks

Cemm September 5, 2009 at 2:39 am

I totally agree with you guys.

When it is all about women, you will be measuring your process depending on the responses that you get from the women… And I don’t think that is right. You can learn lots of good stuff about anything while reading the books, blogs etc. And why limit them just for girls.

Also “On another note, a person may ask, “Well what about all of the women you ‘go through’ on your path to your own self-improvement? Isn’t this a little selfish?”

Additional to edge’s oponions; It is not selfish because the girl that you are with is having fun and spending some nice time when she is with you… And she can learn from you as you can learn from her…
I totally dig the mentality of Edge… There are billions of things to discover

I’m from Turkey and here, even the conception of ‘one-night stand” is new, so I use the things that I learned from you guys not only in girls.

Thanks

Edge September 5, 2009 at 8:08 pm

Hey know1,

Congratulations on working from home – that is really awesome and is a goal of mine too. I like where you’re coming from on this stuff.

Cemm – That is awesome. Well I am happy to have you as a reader and definitely leave comments more often. Thank you for the compliment too.

Edge September 5, 2009 at 8:08 pm

Hey know1,

Congratulations on working from home – that is really awesome and is a goal of mine too. I like where you’re coming from on this stuff.

Cemm – That is awesome. Well I am happy to have you as a reader and definitely leave comments more often. Thank you for the compliment too.

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