According to the “seduction community”, natural game is all the rage now. I mean, just ask several of the pick-up gurus from years past that used to talk about how great routine-based game was. They’ll tell you that these days, they just act natural and it works way better.
So men around the world tune into what the gurus are saying and say, “Wow, these guys got stunning results before and now they say they discovered something even better? This is amazing!!! I’m going to buy all their natural-game products!”
Let me point something out. These guys can act natural because they studied routine-based pick-up for YEARS!! They went out multiple nights a week hammering away on women with routine-based pick-up routines… to the point where they could probably recite the “C and U shaped smile” routine in their sleep. Who do you think lies more, by the way?
My point is that even though the community (or really, the marketing to the community) is geared towards natural game now, it is for two reasons:
1) Natural game is being touted by people who have had tremendous practice in routine-based game. So spinning routines is natural to them now.
2) The market was saturated with routine-based / technique-based pick-up products. The people who want to make money had to come up with something new to sell. Natural.
3) Because the market used to be all routine-based, the majority of the audience became “shells” of human beings, spouting phrases and material totally disconnected from the speaker. Teaching natural game is the ANTIDOTE for these people – it is not teaching game, but rather patching a huge hole in the previous model.
OK, so am I knocking learning natural game? No. I’m poking fun at it a bit, but overall, I think there is value in learning it. Unfortunately, there is marketing around every new thing that comes along and the tendency is to throw away everything that came before it.
So how am I going to learn “Natural Game”? I’m going to learn routine-based game until it becomes natural. 
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hey, I can totally relate to where you’re coming from. I was thinking about the evolution of pickup during a workout while added me on twitter.. lol.
Anyway, I went from training with Asian Playboy and his “natural routine stacked” game – went through a massive growth spurt, great results then stalled and got bored cycling the same routines over and over.
Then went to Charisma Arts guys – learned a great deal in dropping the routines, chilling, relating and appreciating people and to generally just being real.
Finally went to theApproach – the touted “natural game” guys when Sebastian and Vin DiCarlo were together… learned the technicals and laying the foundation to my game.
It’s interesting that you point out that you want to “become natural” by using routine based game. That statement is a paradox in itself. How do you be natural by being scripted?
Well, by learning at a blistering pace going week after week, modelling yourself on a structure so you learn the in and outs of the game as well as your (countless) mistakes that you’ll inevitably make.
You learn what works for YOU and what’s congruent with your “identity”, keeping what works and dropping what doesn’t.
Going back to the beginning.. if I don’t regret all the training I had undertaken.. I just wish I had discovered Tony Robbins personal development programs (Personal Power II) to build the inner game sooner.
Enough with the rambling now .. it’ll be interesting to follow your progress.
Cheers!
Will
Yes, you get where I’m coming from on this.
At the heart of the matter, I do believe the end goal is to be natural and real without using anything contrived or practiced.
BUT the entire practice of pick-up/seduction can’t be practiced without structure and measurement. How can anyone truly practice, reflect upon or measure their progress if there is no structure or consistency to anything they are doing?
Now, there is something to be said about developing a relationship to your own internal feelings, instincts and knowledge. That’s another subject to be looked at independently.
Here I am only talking about practicing outer-game – specifically perfecting elements of picking up women so that tweaking is possible. You can’t “tweak” being natural. And if natural for a guy is being really bitter and abrasive, he will miss out on a lot if he doesn’t at least experience what it would be like to be positive and upbeat.
Natural game is just one idea that is getting heavily marketed – it is far from any complete method to give men who want to *progress* in their ability to get women, in my opinion.
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